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Monday, June 17, 2013

The Man Child From the Church Absolute Proof of a Pre Tribulation Rapture for a small group of people only.

Revelation chapter 12 
  5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. 6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

In Revelation chapter 12  there are great signs in heaven revealing the truth of the 7 year Tribulation. This chapter gives a series of events beginning from the woman and the birth of the man child 1260 days to the war in heaven and the fall of the dragon beginning the persecution of the church which will last 3 1/2 years. Ending in a united nation coalition to make war with Jesus at the battle of Armageddon during the return of Jesus Christ.

The Tribulation begins with the birth of the man child from the woman. This child will rule all nations with a rod of iron and he will be caught up unto God and his throne. This will cause the woman to flee into the wilderness 1260 days during the war in heaven and the beginning of the persecution of the church which will end 3 1/2 years from the abomination of desolation.

  • The Woman represents the Church and will endure the tribulation.
  • The man child represents a small group of young men and women Christ like being caught up to the throne of God before  the Tribulation. 
  • The dragon represents the government of Satan which will cast down 1/3 of the angles and he will fall in the middle of the tribulation. This will be the persecution of the church.

The man child will be a small group of people that will be raptured up before the tribulation leaving the majority of the church to endure the persecution of the cross in the wilderness until the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ at the end of the 7 year tribulation. Jesus will then Gather his elect from one end of heaven to the other this will be considered the main rapture of the church. 

The full Church will endure the 7 year Tribulation. The only people to escape the Tribulation will be the  people in the man child which are considered to be Christ like as a child. It is clear

Who is the man child? The man child is the rapture of the youth.


  1. I think the woman of Rev 12 is Israel and not the Church. The Church is not found in during the 7 years Tribulation. She is taken up completely. I don't even believe that there would be any tribulation saints as such. The grace for Gentiles would have come to an end. Whoever is saved, is saved through persecution and the only ones who would sustain the onslaught and stand strong are the Jews. Blindness in part has happened to Israel until the times of the Gentiles is fulfilled. Again, the times of Gentiles is not the Gentile Church but the transgressors as mentioned by Daniel 8:23. Once the Antichrist's men are come to the full, he will stand up to persecute the Jews. The man child is born first and is caught up and then the dragon is cast down after losing to Michael. While falling he falls with one third of stars, which is a falling away. He will then persecute Israel as a whole and also then goes on to persecute the remnant of Israel, which is 144000 Jews and overcomes them later.

    1. i differ on on some things 1 The church will endure the full measure of the 7 year tribulation which will be the tribulation saints that call Jesus lord. The woman is the church and only the church which is the 12 disciples and onward which do consist of Jewish roots but the man child is the only person who is taken away in a rapture event before the tribulation

    2. The reason why I believe the woman to be Israel and not the Church. 1) The Church is one and cannot be divided. It is one body and it will be taken in the rapture as one and not partial. Therefore that Church is the man child and not the woman 2) They say that the Church was BORN at the Pentecost but I believe the Church was rather CONCEIVED at the Pentecost. Jerusalem is the womb of Israel and that's where the Church was conceived at the Pentecost. The Church is not complete (fulness) until ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE BODY are come to the full. Once the time is reached, the woman (Israel) will have the labour pains to deliver. 3) Immediately after the man child is caught up and there is a subsequent war between the Dragon and Michael, the Dragon is cast down and he then goes after the woman (Israel). Now, we know that the tribulation is Jacob's trouble. Israel will be persecuted. Israel will flee again and be scattered. 4) In the end the Dragon will go after the REMNANT OF HER SEED. The remnant are 144000 of the children of ISRAEL (WOMAN), about whom the prophets of the Old Testament have seen. They will be slain by the Antichrist, as they are the firstfruits of the harvest that would be later reaped, mentioned in the same chapter of Rev 14.
      The 12 disciples are the foundations of the Church, with Christ as the Chief Cornerstone. The tribulation time is the wrath of God beginning Rev 6. God can never have wrath and grace at the same time and that is why you don't find grace, mercy, lovingkindness, goodness mentioned after Rev 6 in the book of Revelation. God would turn His face away during that time and it is impossible for any man to survive or even repent of their deeds. That is why it is mentioned over and again that "they repented not". When Jesus was under the wrath of God on the cross, which He went through so that all those who believe in Him (the Church=man child)should not go through, cried out saying "My God, My God, why hast Thou FORSAKEN Me?". As the Lord Himself will begin to open the seals, which are the judgment of God upon the earth, there will be no grace upon mankind. For this reason, only 144000 of the children of Israel had to be specifically sealed on their foreheads to stand the day of His wrath.
      Blessings to you.